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	<title>Comments on: How to Get Good Old Classic Start Menu Back in Windows 7?</title>
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		<title>By: Coldy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coldy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jagannath

What, to start programs you guys actually type in the name of them? Jesus. How about a nice simple start menu like windows classic style where you add all your favorite programs (like word), above the &quot;all programs&quot; section. That way when you click Start, those most popular/favorite programs are directly visible with ONE click. Dont tell me that was not the most perfect start menu, because it always has been and always will be. The new ones they created since to try and &quot;simplify&quot; things, only made them more convoluted and ridiculous to access things. Please, stop, Microsoft. Or at least include the option for what has been tried and proven in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jagannath</p>
<p>What, to start programs you guys actually type in the name of them? Jesus. How about a nice simple start menu like windows classic style where you add all your favorite programs (like word), above the "all programs" section. That way when you click Start, those most popular/favorite programs are directly visible with ONE click. Dont tell me that was not the most perfect start menu, because it always has been and always will be. The new ones they created since to try and "simplify" things, only made them more convoluted and ridiculous to access things. Please, stop, Microsoft. Or at least include the option for what has been tried and proven in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.askvg.com/how-to-get-good-old-classic-start-menu-back-in-windows-7/comment-page-3/#comment-122095</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I !@#$!@#$!@#$ hate the new start menu with a passion. Been avoiding it for years and organizing it is impossible as far as I can tell. 

Hate it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I !@#$!@#$!@#$ hate the new start menu with a passion. Been avoiding it for years and organizing it is impossible as far as I can tell. </p>
<p>Hate it!</p>
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		<title>By: WinXPAllTheWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>WinXPAllTheWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the classic start menu rules - its clear

why would you want a million shortcuts to the same program

to the people who like the vista like start menu - learn to use a computer!!!!!!

and if youre reading this and you think anything to do with &quot;user friendly&quot; - read the above line and also how about learning how to customize youre computer and youll eventually agree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the classic start menu rules - its clear</p>
<p>why would you want a million shortcuts to the same program</p>
<p>to the people who like the vista like start menu - learn to use a computer!!!!!!</p>
<p>and if youre reading this and you think anything to do with "user friendly" - read the above line and also how about learning how to customize youre computer and youll eventually agree</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The removal of classic menu&#039;s is the stupidest thing ever for a box which has thousands of programs installed.

The classic XP menu is the best menu ever created for managing thousands of programs.
I separate applications up by groups. 

(There are many applications installed under these sub-groups)
audio
games
graphics
MAGIX  
network
office
programming
security
utils
video

This way we don&#039;t have to search alphabetically from Accessories to Ztree!  

Take games for example

Games -
              &#124;-Bethesda Softworks
              &#124;-Impressions Games
              &#124;-Tremulous

etc...  

But no with win 7 this has to be mixed up alphanumerically.  
This is complete illogical nonsense, I hate the win 7 menu system
How do I even know the game Cesar 3 is even under Impressions Games?
Wouldn&#039;t I just be better off with ZTREE going straight to the damn file!!!

These non classic menus may look good, and I do like the search feature so you can search an executable--BUT...YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE NAME!!  or again it&#039;s back to alphanumeric guessing games!

Why does my bitching matter?  
I&#039;ll tell you why. I&#039;m the guy who fixes your broken box. When your box has a crap menu system that I can&#039;t find anything on, it&#039;s going to waste my time and anger me. Anger me enough, and I&#039;ll simply no longer support win 7 and hand you a UBUNTU disk!

Honestly I don&#039;t have nothing against win 7.  I use whatever OS works to get the job done.  You don&#039;t run protools on linux in wine!  Just the same as you wouldn&#039;t run a LAMP server on win 98!  I don&#039;t really care about the linux vs win charade, you use what works, you lock each one down, you tweak and tune each one. 

But ask yourself this, how much longer do you think I will support your OS when I despise using it in the first place.  I mean I Literally have more fun on a headless fbsd box.  The eye candy doesn&#039;t do it for me.  But alas, new computers seem to come with Win 7 Home now...

My advice is head out to secunia and do an advanced scan on you win 7.  I bet you forgot a zillion things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The removal of classic menu's is the stupidest thing ever for a box which has thousands of programs installed.</p>
<p>The classic XP menu is the best menu ever created for managing thousands of programs.<br />
I separate applications up by groups. </p>
<p>(There are many applications installed under these sub-groups)<br />
audio<br />
games<br />
graphics<br />
MAGIX<br />
network<br />
office<br />
programming<br />
security<br />
utils<br />
video</p>
<p>This way we don't have to search alphabetically from Accessories to Ztree!  </p>
<p>Take games for example</p>
<p>Games -<br />
              |-Bethesda Softworks<br />
              |-Impressions Games<br />
              |-Tremulous</p>
<p>etc...  </p>
<p>But no with win 7 this has to be mixed up alphanumerically.<br />
This is complete illogical nonsense, I hate the win 7 menu system<br />
How do I even know the game Cesar 3 is even under Impressions Games?<br />
Wouldn't I just be better off with ZTREE going straight to the damn file!!!</p>
<p>These non classic menus may look good, and I do like the search feature so you can search an executable--BUT...YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE NAME!!  or again it's back to alphanumeric guessing games!</p>
<p>Why does my bitching matter?<br />
I'll tell you why. I'm the guy who fixes your broken box. When your box has a crap menu system that I can't find anything on, it's going to waste my time and anger me. Anger me enough, and I'll simply no longer support win 7 and hand you a UBUNTU disk!</p>
<p>Honestly I don't have nothing against win 7.  I use whatever OS works to get the job done.  You don't run protools on linux in wine!  Just the same as you wouldn't run a LAMP server on win 98!  I don't really care about the linux vs win charade, you use what works, you lock each one down, you tweak and tune each one. </p>
<p>But ask yourself this, how much longer do you think I will support your OS when I despise using it in the first place.  I mean I Literally have more fun on a headless fbsd box.  The eye candy doesn't do it for me.  But alas, new computers seem to come with Win 7 Home now...</p>
<p>My advice is head out to secunia and do an advanced scan on you win 7.  I bet you forgot a zillion things.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I see Win7/Vista Style Start Menu, I just want to kiss that person ass (the one who disable/remove classic start menu). Seriously, who the hell is that person? If you ask Bill Gates, he surely prefer classic menu. And you know what is sucker than that? Vista style windows explorer. XP style windows explorer is the best, they should keep that. Man I hope Bill Gates come to Microsoft one last time and do something about it.... *sign*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I see Win7/Vista Style Start Menu, I just want to kiss that person ass (the one who disable/remove classic start menu). Seriously, who the hell is that person? If you ask Bill Gates, he surely prefer classic menu. And you know what is sucker than that? Vista style windows explorer. XP style windows explorer is the best, they should keep that. Man I hope Bill Gates come to Microsoft one last time and do something about it.... *sign*</p>
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		<title>By: Flex</title>
		<link>http://www.askvg.com/how-to-get-good-old-classic-start-menu-back-in-windows-7/comment-page-2/#comment-107201</link>
		<dc:creator>Flex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is everyone putting down Win7 for not having &quot;All Programs&quot; in their Start Menu?  I just opened my Start Menu and it&#039;s right there, between the last item in the &quot;latest used&quot; section and the command line.  Maybe I changed the default settings after I installed Win7 (I don&#039;t remember doing so), but I haven&#039;t added any extra utilities to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everyone putting down Win7 for not having "All Programs" in their Start Menu?  I just opened my Start Menu and it's right there, between the last item in the "latest used" section and the command line.  Maybe I changed the default settings after I installed Win7 (I don't remember doing so), but I haven't added any extra utilities to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: JeniSkunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeniSkunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s 2 steps needed to have the Windows 7 start menu behave in a manner like the classic start menu. Unfortunately, the 2 steps can&#039;t make the Windows 7 start menu look like the classic start menu whilst using the Aero theme on the Windows 7 desktop.
1. Turn off the menu hover switching.
2. Add your own custom folders to the start menu.


1. Turn off the menu hover switching.
Right click on the Start Menu orb, select &#039;Properties&#039;. The &#039;Taskbar and Start Menu Properties&#039; window will popup.
On the &#039;Start Menu&#039; tab in the &#039;Taskbar and Start Menu Properties&#039; window, click on the &#039;Customize&#039; button. The &#039;Customize Start Menu&#039; window will popup.
In the &#039;Customize Start Menu&#039; window, scroll to &#039;Open submenus when I pause on them with the mouse pointer&#039;. Uncheck this item.

Optional in the &#039;Customize Start Menu&#039; window:
Scroll to &#039;Use large icons&#039;. Uncheck this item.
Scroll to &#039;Highlight newly installed Programs&#039;. Uncheck this item.

Once you&#039;ve made the changes, click the &#039;OK&#039; button in the &#039;Customize Start Menu&#039; window.
The &#039;Customize Start Menu&#039; window will autoclose.
Click the &#039;Apply&#039; button then the &#039;OK&#039; button in the &#039;Taskbar and Start Menu Properties&#039; window.
The &#039;Taskbar and Start Menu Properties&#039; window will autoclose. 


2. Add your own custom folders to the start menu.
To create your own custom start menu folders to be available for all user accounts in a Windows 7 install, go to 
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\
Create your folders under that folder.

To create your own start menu folders so the custom folders are only available for your own user account in a Windows 7 install, go to 
C:\Users\your user account\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\
Create your folders under that folder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's 2 steps needed to have the Windows 7 start menu behave in a manner like the classic start menu. Unfortunately, the 2 steps can't make the Windows 7 start menu look like the classic start menu whilst using the Aero theme on the Windows 7 desktop.<br />
1. Turn off the menu hover switching.<br />
2. Add your own custom folders to the start menu.</p>
<p>1. Turn off the menu hover switching.<br />
Right click on the Start Menu orb, select 'Properties'. The 'Taskbar and Start Menu Properties' window will popup.<br />
On the 'Start Menu' tab in the 'Taskbar and Start Menu Properties' window, click on the 'Customize' button. The 'Customize Start Menu' window will popup.<br />
In the 'Customize Start Menu' window, scroll to 'Open submenus when I pause on them with the mouse pointer'. Uncheck this item.</p>
<p>Optional in the 'Customize Start Menu' window:<br />
Scroll to 'Use large icons'. Uncheck this item.<br />
Scroll to 'Highlight newly installed Programs'. Uncheck this item.</p>
<p>Once you've made the changes, click the 'OK' button in the 'Customize Start Menu' window.<br />
The 'Customize Start Menu' window will autoclose.<br />
Click the 'Apply' button then the 'OK' button in the 'Taskbar and Start Menu Properties' window.<br />
The 'Taskbar and Start Menu Properties' window will autoclose. </p>
<p>2. Add your own custom folders to the start menu.<br />
To create your own custom start menu folders to be available for all user accounts in a Windows 7 install, go to<br />
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\<br />
Create your folders under that folder.</p>
<p>To create your own start menu folders so the custom folders are only available for your own user account in a Windows 7 install, go to<br />
C:\Users\your user account\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\<br />
Create your folders under that folder.</p>
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		<title>By: MasterfulGaze</title>
		<link>http://www.askvg.com/how-to-get-good-old-classic-start-menu-back-in-windows-7/comment-page-2/#comment-100946</link>
		<dc:creator>MasterfulGaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I wasn&#039;t exactly happy about the whole search thing in place of it either. My solution was to use Stardocks Fences program. Shortcuts are grouped onto the desktop like in the old 3.1 days. I rarely use the start menu at all now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I wasn't exactly happy about the whole search thing in place of it either. My solution was to use Stardocks Fences program. Shortcuts are grouped onto the desktop like in the old 3.1 days. I rarely use the start menu at all now.</p>
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		<title>By: perspectoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>perspectoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Kubuntu you can have the best of Windows 7 and customize things the way you want. Menus, desktop, whatever.

Kubuntu is not merely an extension of Microsoft&#039;s cloud on your desktop, as Windows 7 has become.

Best of all, it&#039;s free.

Why be bullied by Microsoft? Choose Kubuntu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Kubuntu you can have the best of Windows 7 and customize things the way you want. Menus, desktop, whatever.</p>
<p>Kubuntu is not merely an extension of Microsoft's cloud on your desktop, as Windows 7 has become.</p>
<p>Best of all, it's free.</p>
<p>Why be bullied by Microsoft? Choose Kubuntu.</p>
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		<title>By: Juanita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juanita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Start menu, is fine, the all programs list is terrible, I have over 200 pgrograms installed on my computer, with xp I could create my own folders, ie media programs, office programs, utilities programs etc, then drop and drag the respective start icon into that folder, I could also arrange everything exactly how I want it, ever tried searching through over 200 names in one huge alphabetical list, that you have to scroll through, a nightmare to say the least.

I also used to be able to remove all my icons from the desktop into a neat little taskbar I had on auto hide at the top of my screen for my most used programs, had to install a third party program for that one also.

What I don&#039;t understand, is that for those who love the new look great, but they never used the functions I am talking about anyway, so why remove them.  

Its not that i actually like the look of the old programs list, but it functioned far better for what I need.  Surely it wouldnt have been too hard to leave it so I could group my programs together and not have to scroll through one impossible long list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Start menu, is fine, the all programs list is terrible, I have over 200 pgrograms installed on my computer, with xp I could create my own folders, ie media programs, office programs, utilities programs etc, then drop and drag the respective start icon into that folder, I could also arrange everything exactly how I want it, ever tried searching through over 200 names in one huge alphabetical list, that you have to scroll through, a nightmare to say the least.</p>
<p>I also used to be able to remove all my icons from the desktop into a neat little taskbar I had on auto hide at the top of my screen for my most used programs, had to install a third party program for that one also.</p>
<p>What I don't understand, is that for those who love the new look great, but they never used the functions I am talking about anyway, so why remove them.  </p>
<p>Its not that i actually like the look of the old programs list, but it functioned far better for what I need.  Surely it wouldnt have been too hard to leave it so I could group my programs together and not have to scroll through one impossible long list.</p>
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